THE flight time between Sydney and Port Moresby is less than four hours.
Yet eight days after baby killer Chris Hoerler was released from prison on parole on the understanding he be deported to Papua New Guinea, he was still in Australia as of Friday morning.
Presumably in immigration detention at Villawood.
Not that the family of Hoerler's victim - seven-month-old Wagga baby Jordan Anderson-Smith - have any clue where he is or why it is taking so long to kick him out of Australia.
Repeated telephone calls and emails to the office of immigration minister Scott Morrison by Jordan's uncle, Darcy Smith, asking for information about Hoerler's status have yielded no response.
A spokeswoman for Mr Morrison on Friday morning said 34-year-old Hoerler had not yet been deported.
He was released from Sydney's Long Bay prison on August 14 and whisked away in a van after serving his full term of 10 years and nine months as well as just over two years of his parole period.
Jordan was killed by Hoerler on February 24, 2000, after a party in the home of Jordan's mother, with whom Hoerler had been in a relationship for less than four weeks.
The injuries included lacerated liver, bruised pancreas and small bowel, multiple rib fractures and crush injuries to his toes caused by the clamp of a desk fan.
The judge who initially sentenced Hoerler after he pleaded guilty to manslaughter midway through a murder trial accepted evidence Jordan had choked to death on his own vomit.
Darcy Smith said as of noon Friday there had been no response to three telephone calls and three emails he had made to Mr Morrison's office.
"We just want to be updated," Mr Smith said.
"We are victims of crime and believe we have the right to know his location, to be informed.
"For all we know he could be let out of detention and be living in Young (where he lived before killing Jordan).
"We would appreciate it even if they said they were processing him.
"Any information would be better than nil.
"For peace of mind we need to know his whereabouts and what he is doing.
"At the moment, we are second guessing.
"We have been living with this for 14 years; surely he (Mr Morrison) can give us five minutes for a response.
"It's a five-minute job for someone, even if it is an assistant, to ring back and say we have not forgotten about you."
Mr Smith said his family would not go away until Hoerler was deported.
"He may have taken Jordan's life, but he has not taken Jordan's voice," Mr Smith said.
Hoerler's visa was cancelled in 2011.
Mr Morrison's office on Friday morning re-released a previous statement saying: "Any detainee who does not have any ongoing matters with the department or the courts will be liable for removal".
Darcy Smith fears Hoerler may be fighting to stay in Australia on the grounds he has children in the country.