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Street preachers slam council policy

19 May, 2010 09:28 AM
CIVIL libertarians have labelled a street activities policy an "outrageous" breach of freedom of speech and religion.

Anti-policy campaigners the Exclusive Brethren have said they are happy to tell council what they are doing, but the policy goes too far and allows just one complaint to halt any activity.

The policy was sent back to Wagga City Council staff this week after members of the environment and community standing committee deemed it "bureaucracy gone mad" which needed to be changed.

That didn't stop NSW Council of Civil Liberties secretary Stephen Blanks launching a scathing attack on the proposed policy.

"It is not for a council to say only certain activities can be done with our approval," he said. "The policy is especially inappropriate when there is no evidence of any problem with footpath activities such as street preaching or busking.

"Restrictions on street preaching contravene freedom of religion and that is something council should not be involving themselves in."

Council general manager Phil Pinyon was not available yesterday to explain why the policy had gone unchanged despite various complaints from the community and concerns from councillors.

Exclusive Brethren member Andrew Doven said council was stepping outside its jurisdiction.

"As Councillor Rod Kendall pointed out, the wording of the policy is very poor and leaves to much to the discretion of a council officer," he said.

"Councillors are regarded as lawmakers in the city but they can't even tell staff what they'd like changed about this policy."

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Arghhhhh, just let the brethren street preachers go, anyone with objections should simply exercise their own rights to free speech and maybe ask the brethren how old the earth is, or something about Darwin's theory of evolution? Hours of entertainment!!!
Posted by Sane Man, 19/05/2010 12:14:12 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
Religion does have freedom of speech in this country. It is how you choose to deliver your message that annoys people. I do not expect to have someone bellowing out their beliefs at me while enjoying some quiet leisure time walking along the main street. I have my own opinions and you will not change them. Similarly, I do not knock on your front door espousing my theories and beliefs and I expect you to extend the same courtesy to my home.
Posted by Leave people alone, 19/05/2010 1:02:14 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
I urge EVERYBODY, agnostic, athiest, believer of whatever religion to line our main street on the weekend and exercise your freedom of speech all over everybody's leisure time. Don't forget to waste some paper by printing up leaflets noone will read. Be sure to bring along some kids to hand out said pamphlets, everyone loves a little child exploitation for religious purposes. Don't just pick one corner, or limit yourself to only corners either. Stand in a group, making it difficult for people to pass, obviously giving you more opportunity to push a leaflet into their hands and run off some religious rhetoric in their ears.
Posted by Erin, 19/05/2010 2:47:51 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
Everyone has their own choice if they want to believe in "God" or not. I often look around at all the bad things that have gone on in this world of ours (especially crimes against poor innocent children) and wonder if there is a god how and why did these things happen?? But Im sure you have some religious reasons for this too. Keep your opinions to yourself and stop standing in the middle of the street preaching your beliefs, I dont try to sell you my beliefs and really dont want to hear yours!!! Maybe you should spend your time out helping the needy or get a job!
Posted by Annie, 19/05/2010 9:09:20 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
If you want to preach, do it in the church. I'm sure if went to do my shopping in your church during the middle of one of your services, you would have something to say about it. Let me shop in the main st in peace and I will let you preach in your church in peace. Fair deal if you ask me!
Posted by Just my opinion, 19/05/2010 11:09:53 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
Letthe street preachers be. They add a bit of colour and give the rest of us a bit of a giggle. Otherwise, how else would we know "where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment" (Apols to Monty Python).
Posted by Jason c, 20/05/2010 10:32:12 AM, on The Daily Advertiser
Exclusive Brethren would not need to “preach” on the street if their rates exemption was removed – as it should be! Their street spruiking is part of a deception of the wider community in order to claim rates exemption for “their” fortress. (Try to gain admission to their so-called PUBLIC place of worship). This cult is EXCLUSIVE to the extent that their publicly subsidised “private club” is not open to the public – in fact it is fenced and gated and patrolled by guards to exclude all but their members who are banned from normal community interaction. Within the cult, free speech is suppressed – their members only voice their real opinions if they are prepared to take huge personal risks. Why do the citizens of Wagga subsidise this Exclusive club? Wagga City Council is being duped on another level. Do a title search of the Exclusive Brethren meeting room and interview the registered owners. Discover that another party has a vested interest in the property, that it is encumbered by separate contractual agreement. Dig hard enough and you will discover that ONE MULTI-MILLIONAIRE has a controlling interest in ALL such EB buildings throughout Australia and overseas.
Posted by Observant 1, 21/05/2010 12:37:10 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
So, civil libertarians THINK that it's.... an "outrageous" breach of freedom of speech and religion....to ban the Exclusive Brethren from street spruiking. RUBBISH!! There are serious double standards at play here. It would show "bureaucracy gone mad" if the EB were allowed to continue their "preaching" farce. The EB leaders do not enable nor allow freedom of speech within their psuedo-religious cult. Women, particularly, are prohibited from voicing their opinion in any formal proceedings. This cult could also be correctly described as a commercial enterprise in disguise. Find out more: www.peebs.net Suggestion to Wagga Council: Charge the EB for their selfish usage of the public street "preaching" space - set the quantum equal to the rates subsidy they already unjustly receive.
Posted by Observant 1, 21/05/2010 1:52:46 PM, on The Daily Advertiser
These people demanding to be able to preach, on the basis that it contravenes their rights to free speech, is the modern day equivalent of Joseph Goebbels, also demanding the right to free speech. Free speech is a two way street, either you believe in it completely or you dont. I was bought up in this cult, and I can tell you that these people have a very perculiar concept of free speech. Their version of it is, that they are free to say anything about anybody, but when somebody uses their right to free speech, and critisises them or their shady practices, they will go to any lenghts to shut down debate, even taking people or organisations to court. As with other cults, this lot love to dish it out, but become extraordinarily sensitive when they receive justifyable critisism in return. If any other Christian group were demanding the right to preach, I would back them 100%, but with this lot, it is just a bit of self righteous, posturing. Perhaps, they could just open their Church doors.
Posted by John Kennard, 23/05/2010 5:52:11 PM, on The Daily Advertiser

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STREET SCENE: Matthew Lindqvist (left) and Andrew Doven from the Exclusive Brethren stand opposite Wagga City Council and the corner they used for street preaching for years.	 Picture: Les Smith
STREET SCENE: Matthew Lindqvist (left) and Andrew Doven from the Exclusive Brethren stand opposite Wagga City Council and the corner they used for street preaching for years. Picture: Les Smith

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